Shauna Meador with Arkansas Shakespeare Theatre

Podcast: Season 2; Episode 13: Shauna Meador of Arkansas Shakespeare Theatre talks new season.

Conway Institute of Music

Today on the Weekly podcast, we talk to Shauna Meador of Arkansas Shakespeare Theatre. We discuss the 2022 Summer season.

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Todd Jones 

Hey everyone, welcome to the weekly by Conway scene. 

 Todd Jones 

I am your host, Todd Jones and today I have Shannon Meter from University of Central Arkansas. 

 Todd Jones 

She is a professor and I guess the head honcho at Arkansas Shakespeare Theatre. 

 Todd Jones 

Would you? Tell us a little bit more about yourself, Shauna. 

  

Shauna Meador 

Yeah, I’m a Conway, Conway natives, UM, and I’m actually the executive director of the Arkansas Shakespeare Theatre and Chair of the Department of Film, Theater and Creative Writing. 

 

 Shauna Meador 

But my family has lived here since about 1973, so I’ve seen Conway grow quite a bit. Went to Conway High School. I went to Saint Joe. 

 Shauna Meador 

For a for a little while. 

  

Shauna Meador 

So yeah, I’ve just been around here for quite a for quite a while, and I’ve been with the Shakespeare festival from the very, very very beginning, and I’m I’m super excited to be at the helm now. 

 Todd Jones 

What is your role entail at Arkansas Shakespeare Theatre? 

 

 Shauna Meador 

Well, right now, Chief Cook and bottle washer, I think is what it is. 

 Shauna Meador 

I’m kind of doing everything, so yeah, I mean because the pandemic? 

 Shauna Meador 

Uhm, we’ve you know, we’ve been on a hiatus for a couple of years and. 

 Shauna Meador 

Then our Artistic director left around the pandemic. 

 Shauna Meador 

She and her husband moved to Saint Louis, so it’s really been kind of gearing it all back up. 

 Shauna Meador 

I hired the director. 

 Shauna Meador 

I started this working with Fayetteville on the collaboration that we’re doing this year. 

 Shauna Meador 

You know publicity, overseeing all the publicity, overseeing all of the housing and transportation? 

 Shauna Meador 

And it’s really just kind of everything right now, not directing the show. 

 Shauna Meador 

And I didn’t cast the shows, but pretty much. 

 Shauna Meador 

Everything else I’ve had my hand in. 

  

Todd Jones 

Prior to being executive director, what was your role? 

 Shauna Meador 

With the Shakespeare festival. 

 Todd Jones 

Yes, correct. 

 

 Shauna Meador 

Uhm, for years I was as faculty costume faculty at UCA. 

 Shauna Meador 

I was, we we call them we it had different names over the years, but the costume production coordinator is pretty much what it was. 

 Shauna Meador 

So I hired all the costume ING staff and at the very beginning I’ve been on both of the the. 

 Shauna Meador 

Search committees for both the artistic directors so. 

 

Todd Jones 

And you took. 

 Todd Jones 

Over in 2021.22. 

  

Shauna Meador 

Well, yeah, I guess I kind of took over. Rebecca left in 2020, so I would have taken over. 

Shauna Meador 

Essentially, right after that. 

  

Todd Jones 

Right, OK, and so the plan all alone was a restart once everything died down and we could. 

 Todd Jones 

Yeah, that’s good to know ’cause you know some people. 

 Todd Jones 

Of course, a lot of business. Just shut down for good and uh. 

 Todd Jones 

I I did a little spelunking because it was like when did this thing start? 

 Todd Jones 

So, I dipped into. 

 Todd Jones 

I think the Arkansas Encyclopedia or whatever it’s called, and it said it started on December 1st, 2006. Can you take us back to that? And since you were there from the. 

 Todd Jones 

Beginning maybe to tell us. 

 Todd Jones 

A little bit about. 

  

Shauna Meador 

Yeah, well we started you see a theater used to do a collaboration with Community arts and the music department and we did a summer production that sort of fizzled out, probably in about 2006 for a variety of reasons and. 

 Shauna Meador 

Our Dean at the time Roland Potter, was really interested in starting something in the summer, and so he came to us and was really interested in this idea of a summer theater we brought in a consultant. 

 Shauna Meador 

From the Oklahoma Shakespeare Festival, we talked to her for quite a bit. 

 Shauna Meador 

I have worked at the couple I have worked at the Texas Shakespeare Festival and the Illinois Shakespeare Festival so. 

 Shauna Meador 

We just brought all of that together and then the next step was really hiring somebody to to lead it, which we did. 

 Shauna Meador 

A search for artistic director and we hired Matt Kearney. The search was in the let’s see the spring of 2006. 

 Shauna Meador 

And I think he came in in December of 2006, so that’s when the whole thing got off the ground. 

 

And then we. 

 Shauna Meador 

Did we had a season with three shows in the summer of 2007 which was just incredible. 

 Shauna Meador 

And that that that got put together so quickly. 

 Shauna Meador 

So then we we so we did. 

 Shauna Meador 

22 Shayera Shakespeare, a musical man of La Mancha. 

 Shauna Meador 

The UM Midsummer Night’s Dream and then a show called the. 

 Shauna Meador 

The oh gosh, the condensed version of Shakespeare can’t remember it’s called. 

 Shauna Meador 

Shakespeare abridged so. 

 Shauna Meador 

Yeah, and then it just kept going on from there we added a touring show and we added a children company. 

 Shauna Meador 

And it just kept building and building. 

 Shauna Meador 

So yeah, we’ve been quite a while. 

  

Todd Jones 

Sorry this year you’re doing. 

 Todd Jones 

Much about nothing is that. 

  

Shauna Meador 

Not to do about nothing. 

 

Todd Jones 

I just knew about nothing. 

 Todd Jones 

Do you normally do just one show and you said you did three the first year in years Pass? 

 Todd Jones 

I can’t remember if you. 

  

Shauna Meador 

Normally done a comedy that we did outside and a tragedy one of the Shakespearean tragedies that we did at Reynolds Performance Hall and a musical. 

 Shauna Meador 

And then what they called the family friendly Shakespeare that went on tour. 

 Shauna Meador 

This year we are only doing the the comedy and we’re doing an inside. 

 Shauna Meador 

We were going to do it outside but there’s going to be a lot of renovations on the building that we were that we’ve performed in front. 

 Shauna Meador 

Of and so we just decided that that was not the best place, but we’re also performing it, so we’re performing. 

 Shauna Meador 

It in a. 

 Shauna Meador 

Completely different place at the Bridges Larson theater in Snow Fine Arts. 

 Shauna Meador 

And then we’re also performing at the Global Theater in Fayetteville. 

 

Todd Jones 

Yeah, so you you answered all my questions if there would be outdoor performances this year and I know you’ve done it at Hendrix as well so but there’s not going to be an outdoor this year. 

 

Shauna Meador 

No, you know it’s been really the last few years we had to cancel so many performances because of the weather. 

Shauna Meador 

It’s 100 and some odd degrees. The mosquitoes and Arkansas as big as your head up and you know, really, we’re going to be moving into this beautiful brand new building. The Wingate Center for the Flighting performing Arts next year and so. 

Shauna Meador 

We’re really going to harness the the energy that comes with that and that’s you know? 

 Shauna Meador 

So it’s our transition from what we were into moving into that new facility. 

 

Todd Jones 

That facility Wingate. 

Todd Jones 

I’m thinking there’s something in Hendricks called Wingate. 

 Todd Jones 

But is this at University of Central Arkansas? 

  

Shauna Meador 

Yeah, yes, that is at the that’s at UCA, it’s On the corner of Donaghey and Bruce. 

 

Todd Jones 

Yeah, that’s the big one. 

Todd Jones 

They’re working on right now. 

Todd Jones 

There’s a lot of construction there. 

 

Shauna Meador 

Wingate is given a lot of money across the state. 

Shauna Meador 

Umsu there was. 

 Shauna Meador 

There’s a I know there’s a space at ualr that was just built that they donate money to. 

 Shauna Meador 

They may have given money to Hendrix as well. 

 

Todd Jones 

They have a uh, Art Museum or I believe it’s called Wingate, but I could be wrong and if I am wrong I apologize ’cause I know we have put some of their events on the calendar. 

Todd Jones 

Yeah, so, and I believe we have all your events in the Conway area next, I know you’re going to, uh, Fayetteville for a show I didn’t put that one on there, but I I think I’ve put all the others on on the the Conway Scene calendar. 

Todd Jones 

And so yeah, and they are all indoor so there should be. 

Todd Jones 

Relatively comfortable, right? 

 Todd Jones 

And then so I dropped Bastion Thompson. They’d be performing, and I’m like, oh, I wouldn’t mind watching it, but it’s like 180 degrees outside. 

 

Shauna Meador 

I know, I know, I. 

 

Todd Jones 

And you know, I tend to I I wouldn’t be. 

Todd Jones 

Good in a social. 

Todd Jones 

Setting when it’s that hot. 

Todd Jones 

So yeah, tell us about the the performance hall you’re working in this time it’s. 

Todd Jones 

It’s not rentals that it’s a smaller one, but can you tell us a little bit about that facility? 

 

Shauna Meador 

Chris Larson Theater was it’s part of the Snow Fine Arts building that was built in I believe 1965 and it originally housed music, theater, and art. 

Shauna Meador 

Then sometime in the 90s aren’t moved over to she still, so it’s just music and theater and so and and we are. 

 Shauna Meador 

We are busting at the seams, particularly music. 

 Shauna Meador 

Which was, you know why they started the Wingate, the Wingate Center, so this building will be going under some renovations next year. 

 Shauna Meador 

After we get into the the new space. 

 Shauna Meador 

So yeah, we’re on the 2nd floor. 

 Shauna Meador 

Music is on the 3rd and 1st floor and we just have a Bank of offices. 

 Shauna Meador 

Uhm, and classrooms down the hallway and then our big roughly 300 seat. 

 

Todd Jones 

Proscenium theatre, if I remember right. Tickets are about $20. 

 Todd Jones 

Is that correct? 

 

Shauna Meador 

Yes. 

 

Todd Jones 

That’s pretty reasonable. 

 

Shauna Meador 

It is, it is. 

 Shauna Meador 

It’s less than we charged in the past, but you know, it’s kind of we’re really just trying to get people to. 

 Shauna Meador 

Come back. 

 

Todd Jones 

Right? 

 

Shauna Meador 

And participate in this. 

Shauna Meador 

And it’s a, you know, kind of a weird location. 

 Shauna Meador 

Parking is going to be. 

 Shauna Meador 

We’re going to work on that trying to get some parking closer to the building and some signage out so that it’s easy for people to find it. 

  

Todd Jones 

And the first performance is in mid late June, something like that. 

 

Shauna Meador 

In 23rd. 

 

Todd Jones 

That’s what I was thinking. 

Todd Jones 

So, you have time. 

 Todd Jones 

Now, do they purchase tickets ahead of time or do they? 

 Todd Jones 

Can you show up and purchase ticket or? 

 

Shauna Meador 

You can, you can probably do both. It’s probably best to purchase the tickets online. You can go to arcshakes.com and we’ve got 2 links there. 

 Shauna Meador 

There’s one for Fayetteville tickets and one for Conway tickets. 

Shauna Meador 

Make sure if you’re getting income while you get the purple button. 

Yeah, yeah. 

Shauna Meador 

So yes, so you can get. 

Shauna Meador 

You can get your tickets through that. 

Shauna Meador 

There you would probably be able to buy tickets. 

Shauna Meador 

Some tickets at the door, but it’s probably best to. 

Shauna Meador 

Buy them ahead of time. 

 

Todd Jones 

If someone is listening this from Northwest Arkansas and I may put that out in the. 

Todd Jones 

In the Twittersphere, ’cause I have a lot Of friends on Twitter’s of many are from that area, and they’re interested in seeing the performance at Fayetteville. When is that and how? You know you can buy that on arcshakes.com as well? 

  

Shauna Meador 

Yes, it’s going to be performing there. June 1617 and 18 and we’ll open the show in Fayetteville ’cause they’re building the scenery and costumes up there, so we’ll go up there. 

 

Todd Jones 

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Shauna Meador 

We’ve been rehearsing it here and we’re all going to go up there and we’ll perform it. 

Shauna Meador 

We’ll open it there, and then we’ll. 

Shauna Meador 

Bring it back down. 

Shauna Meador 

And set it up here in our. 

Shauna Meador 

Theater and performing here. 

 

Todd Jones 

And what is the facility that you are doing in Fayetteville? 

 

Shauna Meador 

It’s the Global campus theater. 

It’s kind of, It’s on the I think it’s kind of on the square down there and it’s a a smaller thrust space that they had newly renovated just a few years ago. 

 Shauna Meador 

It’s a really wonderful space. 

 

Todd Jones 

OK, so all my Northwest Arkansas friends that. 

Todd Jones 

All you big Razorback fans Arkansas Shakespeare theater is coming to Fayetteville in just a couple weeks. 

Todd Jones 

So, you want to get your tickets? 

Todd Jones 

Let’s talk about some of the performers. 

Todd Jones 

A few years ago I was hanging out at Blue Sail Coffee, and in line in front or behind. This young man from North Carolina and he was here for the summer working with the Arkansas Shakespeare Theatre so. 

 

Shauna Meador 

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Todd Jones 

I know people. Come from various parts of the world to perform. 

Todd Jones 

Can you talk a little bit about those performers? 

 

Shauna Meador 

Well, most of well, we have performers from all over the place. 

 Shauna Meador 

Right now, they’re just mainly. They’re kind of. 

Shauna Meador 

Home base right now is Fayetteville. 

Shauna Meador 

You know Shakespeare had an apprentice program in his in his company and so combined with the fact that also most of your kind of professional theaters that are connected to a university are also connected to programs with the graduate program. 

Shauna Meador 

Because you have these graduate actors that you can bring in. 

Shauna Meador 

And they. 

Shauna Meador 

You have a lot of talent from all over the place, but they kind of make their home base at this. 

Shauna Meador 

This connection between the University and the professional. 

 Shauna Meador 

Theater well, Conway doesn’t have a graduate program, and but the University of Arkansas at Fayetteville. 

Shauna Meador 

They have a wonderful graduate program 

 Shauna Meador 

So, we decided to partner with them this year and since we were just doing 1 show and again we were. 

  

Todd Jones 

Wow, smart. 

 

Shauna Meador 

Uh, our staffing has been. 

Shauna Meador 

We’ve been, you know, re upping our staffing and kind of training the the pandemic hit is pretty hard. 

Shauna Meador 

We have some retirements. 

 Shauna Meador 

We had some people leave. 

Shauna Meador 

We had some people leave because of like childcare. 

 Shauna Meador 

And just moving elsewhere with their family. 

 Shauna Meador 

So, this was kind of an easy way for us to segue so. 

Shauna Meador 

But all of the people who are in the company are, you know, they’re either they’re either from Arkansas, or you know from well. 

Shauna Meador 

Obviously they’re either from Arkansas or somewhere else. 

 

Todd Jones 

Well, there there’s students at University, Arkansas in the graduate program, so they could be really from anywhere in the country. 

 

Shauna Meador 

Yes, yes, and then we do have a gentleman who came in Bill Rogers came in from Colorado to work with us and Scott Russell moved Reese. 

Shauna Meador 

Moved back to Fayetteville, but he’s been living in Indiana so people from all over. 

 

 Todd Jones 

Yeah, I believe the press release that you guys sent out had all the actors and and so we have that listed because we posted the press release, and you can read those names there. 

Todd Jones 

Now I’m thinking in the past you had some special actors locally. 

 Todd Jones 

Come to special performances I I want to say that maybe a coach or somebody had performed and maybe I’m mistaken about that, but I’m thinking Coach Brown participated one year. 

Todd Jones 

Is that correct? 

 

Shauna Meador 

You know, I don’t recall. 

 

Todd Jones 

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Shauna Meador 

We have had a lot of kind of Waukon performers that have come on. 

 Shauna Meador 

I know Gilbert Baker who are on our stage and there have been others. 

 

Todd Jones 

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Todd Jones 

Doctor Davis mabye 

 

Shauna Meador 

Probably yes, and I think that Brad Lacey was supposed to be in the last season that we did. 

 Shauna Meador 

That got closed down because of Covid. 

Shauna Meador 

So we have had that in the past and hoped to bring that back, but that will probably be coming back in our, you know, next year, yes. 

 

Todd Jones 

I could just see going up to Fayetteville and maybe Coach Musselman or his wife wanting to get involved somehow, and I think Coach Musselman could pull it off. 

 Shauna Meador 

Never know what’s going to happen. 

 

Shauna Meador 

It could be. 

Shauna Meador 

It could be a lot of fun, yes. 

 

Todd Jones 

When I was on the website this morning and I was looking through, I did notice. 

 Todd Jones 

This is a really well defined section for donating and I imagine a production like this takes you know funds and resources to pull off. 

Todd Jones 

So, can you talk about the importance of supporting Arkansas Shakespeare Theatre? 

Todd Jones 

And obviously it’s not just a Conway thing ’cause you do work with Fayetteville University, Arkansas. 

 Todd Jones 

So, it benefits more than just Arkham. 

 

Shauna Meador 

Right, it it is very expensive to produce theater and so the I mean we don’t. We don’t make our money back on ticket sales. 

Shauna Meador 

No, no theater company does, so the donations that we see receive are very, very important and very very much a huge part of the of us. 

Shauna Meador 

Continuing on. 

Shauna Meador 

The money that we’re we’re doing this season this year off of the money that was raised in 2020 for the 2020 season. 

Shauna Meador 

So we’re very thankful for those for those donors who gave at that point, and then money that was leftover from the university at that time, so. 

 Shauna Meador 

Yeah, that’s a really important part of that. 

Shauna Meador 

We are in the process of hiring someone to be a fundraiser for the university who will also be kind of our head of Community, engagements, marketing and publicity. 

Shauna Meador 

And we’re not releasing that. 

Shauna Meador 

The results of that search yet, but that’ll be very shortly forthcoming, yes? 

 

Todd Jones 

Yeah so. 

 Todd Jones 

What is the impact? 

Todd Jones 

Of Arkansas Shakespeare theatre. 

Todd Jones 

Not just for the students who participate, but the community, maybe even kids who watch it. 

Todd Jones 

In the summertime. 

 

Shauna Meador 

I think that the impact. 

Shauna Meador 

Of the arts. 

Shauna Meador 

On particularly on children, is really. 

Shauna Meador 

It’s very great. It’s interesting. I was thinking about it this morning. The very first play that I ever saw was in snow. Fine Arts in 1973 and I remember seeing. I think it was **** Whittington pet cat. 

Shauna Meador 

And so the theater had only been open for about 8 years, and that I don’t remember the story. 

Shauna Meador 

But I remember the magic of sitting in that seat being 8 years old, and I remember those the bright colors and the set and the people on stage. 

Shauna Meador 

And it just being a really, really magical moment for me as a child. 

Shauna Meador 

And I’m not eight years old anymore, but that still really really sticks with me. 

 

Todd Jones 

Whether you go into it or not, you remember it and so. 

Todd Jones 

So, you know. 

Todd Jones 

Little town I grew up in had Lyon College, Batesville 

Todd Jones 

But we had we had a, uh, a group of students who performed a play and they would bus us all down to the Intermediate School auditorium. 

Todd Jones 

And it was. 

 Todd Jones 

It was kind of cool ’cause you got two or three periods. 

Todd Jones 

Out right, but then you watch. 

Todd Jones 

It and when I’m in high school. 

Todd Jones 

When you’re kid, you’re just watching it, right? 

Todd Jones 

OK, here’s these students doing this, but. 

Todd Jones 

When you’re in high school when I’m in. 

Todd Jones 

High school I’m. 

Todd Jones 

Watching people that I’m sitting in class with. 

Todd Jones 

Do stuff on stage. 

Todd Jones 

That they don’t do regularly every day. 

Todd Jones 

And you’re like amazed. 

Todd Jones 

First of all, that they’re doing this. 

Todd Jones 

But you know, yeah, I think and. 

Todd Jones 

And we had some of the same conversation last week with the ladies from. 

Todd Jones 

Reynolds performance hall 

Todd Jones 

The impact on kids you know. 

Todd Jones 

Again, whether you choose. 

Todd Jones 

To have a profession in that or not and I know that they get all support as you as you do just from people who enjoy the arts. 

 

Shauna Meador 

But you know it’s beneficial whether you, whether you decide to make a career out of it or not. 

Shauna Meador 

I mean people who do theater often feel more comfortable giving presentations, communicating with others, that interpersonal connection that you have. 

Shauna Meador 

It’s really, really, really important, and theater helps you with that it. 

Shauna Meador 

Helps to create a sense of empathy. 

Shauna Meador 

Uhm, it’s just you know, it’s just a lot of fun to sit in there with all of these other people. 

Shauna Meador 

Yeah, you can sit at home and watch TV. 

Shauna Meador 

But there’s something about sitting in a live audience with a bunch of other people who are experiencing the same thing as you. 

Shauna Meador 

Do I mean it’s, you know, it’s just it’s good for your soul. 

 

Todd Jones 

Agree with. 

Todd Jones 

Yes, I’ve heard other people talk about the benefits of participating at a young age and one person I know particularly who has talked about his Christina, Me knows who participated in dance. 

Todd Jones 

And you know performance is at. 

Todd Jones 

Young age and. 

Todd Jones 

The confidence he gave her which you know, has parlayed into a career. 

Todd Jones 

Around public relations and news media. 

Todd Jones 

I, I think it does give you a lot of you know and we have. 

Todd Jones 

We have the Red Curtain Theatre in town. 

Todd Jones 

It is doing the same thing for children, so it’s fun to watch and they grow in confidence. 

Todd Jones 

I know it did a lot for my niece as well when she was with the Blackbird Academy. 

Todd Jones 

She did some dance there so. 

 

Shauna Meador 

Right, right? 

Shauna Meador 

And that you know that sense of imagination. 

Shauna Meador 

I mean, imagination is what fuels everything we do. 

Shauna Meador 

I mean it fuels our economy, it and it fuels our soul. 

Shauna Meador 

And I, and I think theater does a really great job. 

Shauna Meador 

I mean all the arts do. 

Shauna Meador 

But you know, theater is just different, more kind of hands on. 

 

Todd Jones 

One thing about theater that I’ve noticed, and, uh, a good friend of mine is a music teacher at choir teacher at the Comedy High School and they do a production usually every spring and it incorporates everything. 

Todd Jones 

So, it’s not just the kids who sing, they’re also acting. 

Todd Jones 

There’s kids in the background doing the. 

Todd Jones 

The arts part of the like the. 

Todd Jones 

Set, you know? 

Todd Jones 

So it’s it engages about every aspect of art. 

Todd Jones 

In in one thing and it just all comes together in that one production. 

 

Shauna Meador 

Right, right? 

Shauna Meador 

And yeah, and that’s you know we’re trying to do a lot of that in this production too. 

Shauna Meador 

I mean it’s not got little kids in it, but we’ve original music is being composed for this. 

Shauna Meador 

The assistant director is also doing choreography for it. 

Shauna Meador 

It’s just it’s really exciting and. 

Shauna Meador 

We’re, you know. 

Shauna Meador 

You mentioned kids looking forward to bringing. 

Shauna Meador 

In bringing back our Groundlings company, hopefully next year as well to get those the children in the. 

Shauna Meador 

Community involved in it. 

 

Todd Jones 

Yeah, so things are starting to somewhat become normal, and when Arkansas Shakespeare Theatre is opening back up, it’s a good time so. 

Shauna Meador 

Yes yes yes. 

 

Todd Jones 

We’re happy for that. 

 Todd Jones 

Thank you for coming on. 

Todd Jones 

It’s just you know, for people listening and they say hey I want to go watch one of the plays either in Conway or in Fayetteville. 

Todd Jones 

Can you again tell us where they can learn more about Arkansas Shakespeare theater? 

 

Shauna Meador 

Just go to arcshakes.com. 

Shauna Meador 

ARKS, hakes.com 

Shauna Meador 

And then right on the first page there’s a couple of buttons to come to Click to get tickets. 

Shauna Meador 

You can also follow us on Instagram or on Instagram and Facebook arc shakes. 

Shauna Meador 

We’ve been we’re sort of profiling a lot of the people on our in our company. 

Shauna Meador 

On those two things, so you can kind of get to know the company a little bit. 

Shauna Meador 

Better, we’re just really excited about this season and I’m so excited to be bringing this back to the community. 

Shauna Meador 

It’s just, it’s just really. 

 

Todd Jones 

Wonderful, I think entertainment in the various avenues has been the thing that has allowed us to kind of endure the last couple of years, so I’m. 

Right? 

Todd Jones 

Thankful and I’ve. 

Todd Jones 

Watched a lot of musicians do live streaming performances because we were all stuck at home, right? 

Todd Jones 

And I saw many people, in fact, Norah Jones was doing it on the regular for a while, and I would tune into that. 

 

Shauna Meador 

Right? 

Todd Jones 

And, you know, is so thankful that we can have it in person again. 

Shauna Meador 

I agree, I agree. 

 

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