Podcast: Season 2; Episode 10: Chris Smith with The Rogue Roundabout talks Craft food & beverages

00:00.00

tejones

Hey everyone, welcome to the weekly podcast at Conway scene and I’m your host Todd Jones and today on this podcast I have Chris Smith from the rogue roundabout Chris welcome to the podcast tell us a little about yourself.

 

00:15.88

Chris Smith

Well thank you, I am the brewmaster for the rogue roundabout. Ah, I’ve run hotels for the past fifteen years decided to do something else after covid hit, so we are now. My wife and I and several business partners are trying to change the downtown Conway scene just a little by offering something that’s ah, a little unique and a little unheard of in the area but we my wife and I just really. Love the idea of ah craft food craft beverages and and craft entertainment a Conway crafted experience. We just look forward to changing. What is the normal in the Conway area?

 

01:08.56

tejones

Let’s talk about that word craft I’ve noticed in your Kickstarter Campaign. You brought it up really quickly in the podcast and I know you have previous craft experience. Weather. Just something you did on the side or something you liked and and also I’d like to learn a little more about your hospitality experience. But let’s talk about what craft means to you in this context.

 

01:32.61

Chris Smith

Ah, craft means to me an artistic representation of local individual flair. Um, and what I mean by that is an artistic approach. To food an artistic approach to beverages and an artistic approach to a whole business style in the last ten to fifteen years we have seen a shift in the allocation and I would say cultivation. Of craft, and that is something that is unique and local to us that we see as artistic. Individualistic ah, and ah just a and a nice. Ah, representation of what we are, what we do on a daily basis, culture is the right word. So it’s its culture but local culture.

 

02:29.74

tejones

And I mean you’re not just talking about beverages. Um, you’re talking about the other things like can you talk about that.

 

02:33.33

Chris Smith

No, so we want to create Ah, ah, a touchstone for craft Food. So What we mean by craft food is food that is made for. Us as a community made by us as a community and enjoyed in our community. Those things that are nostalgic that we can call upon from our childhood or our young adulthood. Things like ah Barbecue Baloney Sandwiches Smoked cheeses. Ah just an upscale interesting look at things that we’ve found interesting in our past.. Maybe we’ve moved on from ah but. Just we want to reminisce and remember fondly. Um, but also keeping it as local as possible. We want to find ways that we are already individualistic in our community and just share it with everyone.

 

03:42.21

tejones

So there’s a nostalgic effect to your understanding of craft that is correct.

 

03:50.23

Chris Smith

I think that the easiest way that we can tell a story is something that we can all relate to. It’s hard to express things that no one has ever experienced. It’s easy. To express the details related to a common experience. So we all understand what the taste of an orange is but how do we? How do we describe the taste of laiche? If no one’s ever tasted Lai Chi, you can’t really explain it.

 

04:25.00

tejones

Yeah.

 

04:25.30

Chris Smith

But we all know what oranges taste like. We all know what it smells like. There’s a nostalgic factor that we’ve already touched upon that’s easy to build on.

 

04:33.66

tejones

So does that mean you’re gonna have a pickle loaf of sandwiches? Does that mean you’re gonna have to pickle loaf sandwiches

 

04:36.51

Chris Smith

No, what is that now I am ah pickle loaf I have not heard that one I’ve known ah mock loaf and I know some ah some pattes. Ah, that are a little loaf-like but pick a loaf. I think I can get behind that. I just have to try it first.

 

04:56.52

tejones

It’s meat. It’s a lunch meat when I was a kid. We’d go to the little market and they would have pick a loaf and pressed ham and you know we didn’t have the fancy stuff like we do now turkey and ham and all that now you went and you had to pickle loaf and pressed ham which was way cheaper and. You know you buy a lot of it for a kid for summertime. But anyway, that’s ah I thinking about nostalgia the older I get the more nostalgic I get about things and.

 

05:20.79

Chris Smith

That sounds a lot like a product called Mortadella which is a sort of an olive pickle pepper pickled item shoved into a casing and allowed to solidify. So yes I love morative della. Ah. There’s yeah, it’s nostalgia for me too. Yeah I get it.

 

05:42.90

tejones

So take me back just a little bit. You said that you were in the hotel business for 15 years and this is something I did not know if we got on the call with you. So um, tell me how you do.

 

05:51.75

Chris Smith

That’s correct. So.

 

06:00.23

tejones

In the hotel industry and how did that prepare you for where you were going now with the road ground about.

 

06:04.80

Chris Smith

So I’ve worked for 2 hospitality related nonprofit organizations nonprofits just not necessarily the word that I would I would stick with I spent 10 years ah running a hotel conference center. Ah rather the hotel side of things. For Arkansas Tech University I moved on from there to a nonprofit on Petit Jean that went to Rockefeller Institute I was there for, the remainder of that time. Um, but it’s a lot of just figuring out ways to relate. Solve problems preemptively and proactively in hospitality. Ah centric arena now that just means I’m really good at talking to people one on one I can relate to people 1 on one I have good eye contact. Ah. I listen well. Um, but yes I have a degree that I received from Arkansas Tech University in 2007 ah hospitality restaurant host hotel management. So I’d use that for a while but I want to use that a little bit more. In the restaurant field and so this was that endeavor.

 

07:24.44

tejones

Yeah I think that a lot of us get to a point where we want to do our own thing rather than following what somebody else once you do you know we get her we form ideals after we’ve been working a while.

 

07:38.28

Chris Smith

I’ve spent a lot of hospitality sector time in just serving people and in a very organized fashion ah being told how to do things what to do? Um I would like to have ideas. For how I would like to entertain people and show them just how cool a local can be and that’s that’s this endeavor you are correct I’ve I’ve spent a lot of time in the back. The back of the house hospitality I Really do want to be front and center and show.

 

08:00.76

tejones

Um, yeah.

 

08:14.73

Chris Smith

Conway has a different craft mechanism.

 

08:17.48

tejones

Now in your Kickstarter video you allude to the fact that before you started the rogue roundabout you spent time crafting things and I assume you mean to some degree the drinks and I know you said you made? a. Ah, Ginger beer before you ever you know thought about selling something like that is there any other top craft things you did are you like familiar like you craft you do with like wood.

 

08:45.98

Chris Smith

Yes, that’s that’s ah that is some stuff that actually got cut from the original recording that we only wanted to produce a maximum 3 three and a half minute segments just for the front of the Kickstarter. There was quite a bit more that we talked about there. Um. So ah I fancied myself a bit of an abstract painter at one point. Um, ah, we’ve we’ve ah we purchased 2 houses that we’ve fully gutted one was a ah foreclosure that we completely worked over. Um, and we’ve worked on vehicles. We’ve worked on ah ah, house artwork. We’ve developed a family. It’s all it’s all craft to me. It’s all things that we can see ahead of time. Ah, we’ve got an idea of what we want to do with it. Ah, we try to create the best things that we can with it. So yes, you are correct. A craft for me is not just food and beverages. It’s all the ah, all the expressions of what we want to do and how we see it and make it happen. It’s just a creation mechanism. It’s ah it’s just fun to do things with your hands and I can see these things ahead of time. Um, and it’s just fun to see how they get created along the whole way.

 

10:17.41

tejones

It’s rewarding to have something in your head and when you finally see it realized you know you’re it’s you create something you know so it is very rewarding and I understand that i’m so let’s talk about.

 

10:24.63

Chris Smith

Um, yes, yeah.

 

10:34.76

tejones

You play on an opening sometime later in the year um October November I guess, maybe.

 

10:37.80

Chris Smith

Um, what I’m telling folks is by the end of the year um that will be open and if it happens sooner than that everyone will be happy. Ah, we just want to do it the right way. Um, and we know that in the.

 

10:51.75

tejones

Right.

 

10:57.53

Chris Smith

And in the realm of 2022 there’s going to be problems. There’s going to be shipping delays. There’s going to be, um, industrial problems. There’s there’s going to be things that are going to get in our way but we expect to be opened by the end of this year

 

11:14.79

tejones

Okay, let’s put our imagination cap on just a little bit and let’s say it’s December first and you were opening. It’s ah you know what will people expect when they go into what they will find not really necessary what will they expect but when they walk in that.

 

11:15.13

Chris Smith

And we’re just hoping for the best.

 

11:32.61

tejones

The first day first time they go in the first week, what will they see? What will they expect?

 

11:38.74

Chris Smith

But well expectations are hopefully as that we can meet those expectations but what I fully expect when people walk in the end of the door. First off, ah that would whether that’s our soft opening events, or that is the grand opening day. When you walk in the front door. You’re going to see a wide open warehouse in the downtown Conway area. You’re going to walk into a building that is bright and light. Ah, it’s welcoming. But it’s also big. Ah, the building itself is fifty-Five hundred Square feet. We want to fill it with natural. Light natural wood that we’ve harvested from the previous structures that were in there. Um, we’re going to paint the walls that need to be painted. Ah, they’re going to be lighter in color. Um the brick will be exposed. We want to show a lot of the history of that. Existed inside this building for 100 years before we got it with modern touches. Obviously, we’re going to have stainless steel. Um, ah fermentation tanks clearly visible will have an open concept kitchen um, freshly painted walls. Um, a coffee shop. We also want to have long ah a beer hall like ah style tables. We want to express the fact that Conway needs to be a community. Um. Restaurants often segment you in booths with high tops. Ah they allow you to just set down and be secluded from everyone else and have your own experience. Well, that’s not exactly what we are going for. We want people to sit together and talk about um. Talk about what’s going on right now and communicate with one another in that one of our efforts is long. We’re gonna have 4 long beer hall style tables. They’re eighteen foot long by three feet wide each table will set 18 people we we want people to set together we want people to communicate we’ve even tossed around the ideas of having metal baskets on the table where you can put your cell phone so you’re not you constantly don’t have something in your hands secluding you from everyone else we we want to create a community environment where people. Can interact with one another and have a shared experience. What is that shared experience that is the craft beverage, the craft food, the Conway crafted experience. We want everyone to experience it and share it together.

 

14:27.10

tejones

Now Let’s get to what you’ve alluded to already and we talked about before we got on and did the recording of the entertainment and the question really will there be entertainment? I think that’s obvious yes. So Can you talk about your ideas for entertainment?

 

14:43.96

Chris Smith

Yeah, so entertainment for us is right off the bat. Everyone understands music. Um, so we’ll start there. We don’t intend for music to be the end all but we don’t necessarily want to be.

15:02.10

Chris Smith

A loud raucous environment. We understand that that’s what Kings has that we want to be a maybe a 1 to 2 to 3 4 member um acoustic um music environment. When we’re talking about music. We don’t want loud, probably not going to have any ah ah pickups for electric music I would like to keep it more in the acoustic realm. Ah so what? I would imagine it is a little bit of bluegrass. Um some classical guitar work.

 

15:28.37

tejones

A.

 

15:36.97

Chris Smith

Ah, folks doing acoustic covers of other artists. Um somebody I don’t imagine a full drum kit, something more like a djembe or it sounds foolish but like something like a bongo but just interesting music that can. Ah, mesh with the environment. Um keeping in the realm of music. We’ve also tossed around the idea of a throwback Thursday so that would be a um, got to go with me a little bit on this one a camera. Ah, that is positioned on top of a record player with a select records select vinyl playlist throughout the night projected onto a Tv or onto a projector so everyone knows what’s playing but we play vinyl. From 5 till close. Um, and that’s the whole album. ah I’m of the ah I’m of the mind that albums were created to be listened to from track one to side Ace to side b I mean they they were experiences that people. We’re supposed to enjoy secession and jumping around track to track is just not helpful. Ah, but we envision like a Thursday night vinyl pressing. So. Ah, we’re talking live music but nothing too crazy to throwback Thursdays if you will outside of music we kind of like the idea of a spoken word night. Someone who can come in a world war two vet um ah a desert campaign vet to someone who can come in and tell a personal story I’m of the impression that we have incredible diversity of backgrounds and incredible diversity of entertaining stories that are locked. Into generational concepts and we don’t if we don’t listen and if we don’t record these fantastic stories. Ah these life changing events being told from actual real people they’re going to be lost to time and so we kind of want to focus on. Ah, just somebody in our community telling their story other than that ah entertainment can exist in the form of ah of a game. Ah, we don’t want to be a sports related themed restaurant but we understand that there are.

 

18:16.65

Chris Smith

A Friday night football. Ah Conway has a really awesome ah recording set up where they can broadcast ah over the internet ah Conway High School games I wouldn’t mind putting that up on a Tv but again I don’t want to be a sports themed restaurant. I want to be whatever the community wants us to be and that’s the best point for me is we are what Conway needs us to be if Conway needs us to be an acoustic ah entertainment ah venue. That’s what we’ll be if Conway needs us to be. Um, a community meeting space. That’s what Conway just happens to it’s Conway is going to tell us what we need to be and I think that’s the easiest way for entertainment. We are what Conway needs us to be.

 

19:07.64

tejones

Well I certainly like the storytelling ideal and I certainly like the ideal I generally watch the high school football game on Tv during the at home but I’m really comfortable good at my recliner and there’s you know? Nope no bad.

 

19:17.64

Chris Smith

Um, yeah.

 

19:25.62

tejones

But maybe once a while go down and watch it at the Rogue or something like that might be a a little bit more social. I do tend to like to watch things in isolation. But maybe I need to be a little more community oriented in that regard. Yeah.

 

19:38.85

Chris Smith

We’ve had two solid years of isolation. Let’s enjoy each other’s company and talk about a shared social concept.

 

19:48.14

tejones

Yeah I think I could be down for that. All right, what we haven’t talked about in this conversation so far is I actually met you at Art Walk in April so I got to taste some kind of peach. I don’t know what that was or really good by the way I really enjoyed it but you started talking about the logo and the name rogue roundabout obviously roundabout is very well known and Conway because of the roundabouts right? where the city of roundabouts in Arkansas and.

 

20:06.53

Chris Smith

Yes.

 

20:24.54

tejones

But you talked about the Rogue roundabout. So first of all, can you tell me a little bit about the idea behind the name and then what you were telling me about the logo.

 

20:32.81

Chris Smith

So firstly, what you had was a lacto green tea Peach ginger beer. It’s a huge mouthful I haven’t figured out ah ah like a really nice thing to say about it. But it’s ah it’s a green. Yes I guess so it was a peach.

 

20:46.60

tejones

Toad Suck Beer.

 

20:51.68

Chris Smith

Green tea. Ah, ah, it’s ah, a different thing: peach green tea. It’s got a lactile component, so it’s probiotic. It’s healthy for you. It was just really flavorful and fizzy and I liked it, but I haven’t really come up with a solid name for it. Maybe it’s the ah the toad suck.

 

21:11.67

Chris Smith

Probiotic something I don’t know um, but the road roundabout was something that we were setting down at our house with our business partners. We wanted to have some sort of ah alliteration of the RR um came about we liked them. We wanted to play on roundabout because yes, Conway is very roundabout centric if I might say so, so we wanted to play around with alliteration and we had a couple different ideas. Nothing really clicked until we stumbled upon the rogue.

 

21:48.52

Chris Smith

Roundabout and we liked where that was going. We were stuck with it. We’ve since then developed more of a cohesive ah message behind that so in a city of roundabouts we are the rogue roundabout. Logo goes the opposite direction, so roundabouts in Conway go counterclockwise we go clockwise um so we wanted we knew that ah due to 6 8 1 legislation passed in 2019 that is micro breweries in dry counties with restaurants. We knew that alcohol could in no way leave our building so we had to come up with a very intensely a Conway idea and Conway is synonymous with roundabouts so we ah, we knew that we needed to build upon the. Ah, the rogue roundabout idea such that all of our beers are named after city streets in Conway with roundabouts located on them with a nice little spin so there’s hark riders on the storm, Dave war delirium Donaghy Darko ah number 8 on pebble beach. Ah, pebble beaches a roundabout there. We have 28 roundabouts as of right now, and I think they’re building 2 more by the end of the year. We might have 30 to 30 one roundabouts so that’s plenty of game to play with that Conway idea. So. In a city of roundabouts we are the rogue roundabout. I think somebody said the other day. Ah we yield to no one. Ah, but not that was ah that was. I had to text that to our business partners as well. I thought like how come we’d never thought of that. Ah, but.

 

23:26.51

tejones

Yeah, that’s good like that.

 

23:37.19

Chris Smith

Yeah, we yield to no one. It’s just a fun ah concept since we can’t. We don’t foresee us ever taking this concept outside of Conway if we go somewhere else. We’re going to come up with another idea but we want to be. Conway. So let’s link ourselves to something that’s uniquely Conway.

 

23:59.28

tejones

Okay, you’ve talked about it in passing and obviously this is a crafted beer crafted drink and a crafted restaurant. But you are serving beer and alcohol. But you have told me before that you intend to make it very family friendly and that there are. Drinks on the menu that are crafted that are not alcohol. Can you talk a little bit about that?

 

24:20.11

Chris Smith

Well, ah, really glad you brought that up. Ah, if you’re in my mind. Ah which is a dangerous place to be ah more than 50% of our beverage menu is non-alcoholic. So we’ll have 10 taps of beer wine seltzer cider either. We make it or we bring it in what we would imagine is 8 or 9 taps that we make always rotational and maybe we’ll have some core items and and we’ll have some super seasonal items. Ah we’ll bring in. Um. Something from outside that everyone enjoys ah but then the other 10 taps at our main location are going to be non-alcoholic. So that’s Kombucha jun which is a green tea ah honey offshoot of kombucha. Ginger beer which is probiotic and healthy. Um, it’s got its own different things. We get to flavor that a bunch of different ways. Um, but what I’m really interested in is carbonating teas, carbonating water, carbonating lemonade, and unique recipes that are found all over the planet. That are one non-alcoholic or extremely low alcohol. So. It’s not a problem with probiotic healthy. Um, so we won’t even have a coke contract. I don’t want to have coke in the restaurant. I don’t want to have Pepsi in the restaurant we’re trying to create. Something that’s distinctly different from that product. That’s healthier. That’s local, and this is how we do it. We just we just don’t carry Coca-cola we don’t carry Dr Pepper I know that’s going to turn a couple people off, but that’s that’s where we want to go. So family friendly. Um, in the fact that alongside beer and malted products. There is an entirely unique menu that is targeted towards people that don’t drink. Won’t drink, shouldn’t drink, can’t drink and that’s how we best serve our community. That’s how we best serve Conway.

 

26:40.79

tejones

I’m actually excited that I do like ginger products. We drink ginger a lot at home. So I would really be interested in some of that that you’re talking about putting up a couple more things I want to touch on before we wrap this up. Um the next one is. The building is located if I remember right chestnut in Maine is that correct big large former been a lot of things. So if you drop by and I know I have this week you’ll see you know that sometimes it’s open and people are working. I know you got people working there to talk about that.

 

27:01.99

Chris Smith

Affirmative Yes, you are right? yes.

 

27:15.69

tejones

Building space. Maybe how you found it. But what I really want to do is make sure that people in their mind put a marker at that building so they know where you are when you open.

 

27:25.90

Chris Smith

Got you so the building is physically located of course at Chestnut and main street if you think about it Conway has a naturally developed ah restaurant row if you will so on main street. Ah, going east to west you have O’malley’s at the far side a little bit further down you have brick and forge immediately beside brick and forage. You have jjs you have a small parking lot and then there is our building.

 

27:56.23

tejones

Ah, great.

 

28:02.14

Chris Smith

Continuing on further down and around the corner you have Mike’s place so we knew that the downtown corridor was exactly what we needed it to be. Parking is such that it is a problem down there. But. If people are going to find you if people want to come and visit you they will find a way of doing so but downtown just seemed like the best vehicle no pun intended but the best vehicle to um of creating a successful concept. So we always knew downtown was supposed to be where we wanted to be. We didn’t want to be off the beaten path. Although that could quite possibly have been ah, a cheaper ah product that we could create ah the building price would have been a little bit different had we. Looked somewhere else and I will add. We took about a year to find this location. We looked at probably 10 to 12 different locations. Ah as to where we could be um, but at the end of 2021 um, this building became a possibility for us and so we and so we knew we saw exactly what it could be which is a very large open concept restaurant ah beverage lab coffee shop and. We’ve doubled down on what that means and and and we’re going to make it happen.

 

29:31.55

tejones

Yeah I’m and I’m very familiar with the building because I went to Blue Barn bakery when it was you know when she was there right next to you I think now it’s ah another little bakery. But so I’m very familiar with the building walked by many many times and it’s a very.

 

29:44.27

Chris Smith

Um, yeah.

29:51.40

tejones

Walking distance from my office So That’s kind of cool. Okay, last thing I want to talk about before we wrap this up I Want to talk about the Kickstarter. Let’s talk about the des What people need to know about Kickstarter if they want to help back. Rogue roundabout what they need to know and of course let me just say the link to the Kickstarter will be in the show notes for the podcast, but let’s talk about what you’re looking for in terms of support with the Kickstarter.

 

30:22.60

Chris Smith

So the Kickstarter campaign was always something that we wanted to have built into our campaign initially when we developed our business plan in 2020 ah the idea or the mechanism behind it was just to drum up really good public support and get ourselves out there into the public eye. Um, get a little bit more extra funds so that we could do some fun things for the community. Um, that shifted a little bit in 2021 or rather at the end of 2021 and ah the spring of 2022. What I mean by shifted is that gas prices increased and shipping problems were created. Ah, the world was really turned upside down and things became a little bit more difficult so we pivoted our Kickstarter campaign to more covering the shipping costs and the problems that currently they’re really hitting all of us. And so we just needed to cover costs that did not exist in 2020 when we developed our business plan. Um and and such that we are going to do our best to cover all the incidentals that have popped up since then.

 

31:35.92

tejones

Um, ah.

 

31:47.63

Chris Smith

So the Kickstarter itself really has 2 focuses. The very first focus is an individualistic donor or pledging apparatus so we’ve got like all kickstarters we’re offering stickers hats glasses t-shirts. It’s very individualistic. What do you want? Do you want our logo on something? Um every dollar that you donate to us helps us out but you get something in return the second part of the Kickstarter campaign is more focused towards sponsorships. So you can. You can have a private party for 10 of your friends’ food included. You can have a private cooking class with our head chef ah you can brew a beer with me ah name that beer at the end of the day and then it’s sold in the restaurant as a limited release. So you get a lot of input on that one ah furthering that you get tickets to our soft opening events. You can sponsor a table with your plaque in the center of that table. That’s there forever. Ah, and then at the very top end. You can purchase a fermenter for us to use in the restaurant you get to name that for a mentor because um, taxable I have to name each for a mentor something uniquely different and it will be named that forever. Ah, so. If I named a fermenter Billie I have to say how much production Billie produced in the year of 2022 and I get taxed with that. So Billy gets his name ah forever in the Irs archives and then there’s a large placard above that  will show that you.

 

33:30.90

tejones

There you go.

 

33:36.53

Chris Smith

Ah, you sponsored The Rogue roundabout and you made it happen and it’s up there for perpetuity. Is it there forever? Ah, but so it’s an individual donation or it’s It’s a little bit more. It’s ah it’s sponsoring the idea behind a Conway crafted experience.

 

33:52.53

tejones

And as of this morning which is Wednesday, may the eleventh, you’ve got 127 backers with twelve days to go and just a little shorter than your goal. So if you are interested in backing this project. We will have the link in the show notes and you can. Like on that and choose one of those options and some really cool prizes I was just looking through there so you might choose your donation amount based on the particular prize that’s being set up. So I know I kind of have it in my head like I think I want that one. So.

 

34:29.55

Chris Smith

I’m really excited about that t-shirt. The t-shirt was designed by Silver Lake downtown really? ah ah, fun, interesting artist that we met at the most recent art walk. Ah, we.

 

34:31.40

tejones

After.

 

34:46.61

Chris Smith

We wanted to just create something that’s uniquely available during the Kickstarter event and we’ll develop some other shirts down the line but we really like where this design has done for us in the beverage lab side of things the sciencey side as well as the artistic. Yeah. Ah, the craft food side. It’s a fun little design.

 

35:07.17

tejones

So at this point i’m as we start to wrap this up. How can people learn more about the Rogue roundabout and if they want to speak with you more about everything. How can they get in touch with you.

 

35:21.10

Chris Smith

Take a look at our Kickstarter. It. It is quite in-depth. Um the writing the details are certainly written there. But by all means we are on Facebook and Instagram. If you message us on Facebook we are going to respond. In 20 minutes, please contact us if you’ve got any questions. I love talking to people about my craft. What we are doing is so unique that I spend my day talking to people out on the streets about it. I am not afraid of talking to a stranger about this idea. Ah I’m really good at 1 on one conversation. So please just hit me up. Stop me if you know what my face looks like or if you ever see ah a baldy a bearded man walking down the street. Ask him if his name is Chris with the road roundabout. If not, you’re going to get nothing out of it. But if it’s me, you’re going to get an ear full so please stop me.

 

36:20.98

tejones

Now I know when a tot took during Toad Suck Daze you did like a preview kind of thing. Are you gonna do more of those for people interested and.

 

36:29.60

Chris Smith

At toad suck that was a personal type of thing I happen to be opening a restaurant with a brewery aspect. Ah that tote suck was as was me doing it I’m going to try to do a couple more of those as a home brewer. Ah, art walk is a non-alcoholic um drink option. We always take stuff there and of course just offer out samples. We’re going to be doing that one more time because art walk is just this next month that’s it and I think they’re stopping for the summer.

 

36:58.31

tejones

Till may. Yeah.

 

37:04.28

Chris Smith

So we will be there at the art walk and then we’re trying to come up with new events to stay engaged with the public. Ah, but just keep ah keep an eye on our Facebook page, keep an eye out for us. We are going to be out and about doing some stuff. We want people to enjoy our product. Ah, and that’s only possible by just getting out there and talking to folks.

 

37:23.83

tejones

Very good. I appreciate you coming on the show today and just sharing your story and what we expect to see in the future with the Rogue Roundabout.

 

37:33.88

Chris Smith

Well thank you very much for having me today, Todd. I look forward to many conversations in the future and I would love to have you in when we open up to see us. Ah at the rogue round about when we open and until then just follow us on social media.

 

37:43.14

tejones

Sounds like a plan to me.

 

37:53.14

Chris Smith

Ah, and support us on our Kickstarter campaign. We’ve got another twelve days left, and every dollar helps us get to that final goal. Thank you.

 

38:01.14

tejones

Thanks Chris.